ET Disclosure 2008: UN-UFO Secret Meetings ... Has the UFO community
been sucker punched on this one?! JOIN THE HEATED, LIVELY, ONGOING
DISCUSSION AT "The Open Minds Forum" and weigh in with YOUR opinion!
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Doc
Why all the disinformation? Does it boil down to control, money, and power?
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From: ted roe <[email protected]>
To: Victor Martinez <[email protected]>
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 21:21:25 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Re: UFO Community: UN Denies meetings took place...have we been suckered?!
Dear Ted:My friends in France can find no trace of Lorant at CNRS. Henow claims he was an "auditor" at IHEDN but is now beyondthe age limit.You'll notice that the story speaks of "the Secret UN Meeting"even though it appears to have been a routine mid-levelgathering (non-secret) to prepare an administrative conference.The manipulation is becoming obvious. My advice is to stayaway from it.It seems to me this story is falling apart but the structure isvery interesting -- along the lines of a psywar rumor processor what is known around the Internet as a "meme war":1. You make up a really intriguing story that seems verylegitimate by including respected names: UN, FrenchAmbassador, DSK etc. and precise dates.2. You leave it full of holes so that people will come up withquestions, thus revealing who is interested and why.3. You imply great secrecy, thus dangling new bits ofmystery.4. You slowly retract the story (since a lot of it was made upin the first place out of pure imagination) but you point toa legitimate-looking person (Lorant) who was there.5. The legitimate-looking person (whose credentials don'tcheck out) "reveals" more details but does not confirmthe earlier story, thus gaining additional credibility and"dangling" new information.6. Legitimate journalists reinforce the apparent story bytrying to follow this new trail.7. You throw in new intriguing names like Ted Kennedy andJohn McCain through new anonymous sources "who could bein danger if they revealed their names..." thus seducingmore recognizable researchers into revealing their interest...8. You use the Internet to circulate the whole mess to anincreasing circle of people, hoping to create a mass effect.9. At that point, any official denial of the story (or part of it)sounds like a cover-up or skeptical reaction, enabling you toclaim that you are the victim of disinformation, etc. etc.All very clever.Feel free to circulate my analysis. I'd like to knowwhat other people think of this.Jacques Vallee
Ted:Oddly enough, some of the arguments of the alleged UN reportare similar (although exaggerated) to the testimony I presentedquite officially before the political committee of the UN in 1978,along with Dr. Hynek, Claude Poher, Gordon Cooper, StantonFriedman and a few others in attendance. The meeting was non-secret(it was in fact open to the public and press) and widely reprinted.Therefore I don't even grasp what Messrs. Salla, Lorant etc. areclaiming in terms of new information, or why there would be sucha pretense of great urgency and secrecy.Last minute information: Gilles Lorant has been forced to resignfrom the FEA in France and has confessed that he was not and had neverbeen associated with the IHEDN, which told him in no uncertain termshe would be brought into Court (such false claims and misrepresentationexpose you to 100,000 euro fines, plus time in jail in France) unlesshe made it clear he had no such status.So the whole thing has collapsed.Jacques ValleeVictor Martinez <[email protected]> wrote:
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DISCUSSION AT "The Open Minds Forum" and weigh in with YOUR opinion!Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 14:28:20 -0700 (PDT)
From: ted roe <[email protected]>
Subject: UN Denies meetings took place
To: [email protected]Victor,I recieved this email this Am and it is clear that the UNdoes not acknowledge that this meeting took place.Ted RoeFrom: inquiries2 <[email protected]>Date: Mon 10 Mar 2008 17:11:57 GMT+01:00Subject: Re: Fwd: UN Meeting on UFOs???Greetings from the UN Public Inquiries Team.
As far as we are aware of there was no meeting concerning UFO's at the United Nations. Attached below are the Journals for those days which lists all the meetings that took place:
Best regards,Public Inquiries Unit
Public Relations Section
Department of Public Information
United Nations
[email protected]
André Skondras <[email protected]> 08/03/2008 07:34 AM
To[email protected] cc SubjectFwd: UN Meeting on UFOs???
Hi:
This week I sent you the message below re a UN Meeting on UFOs which according to some people such as Mr. Michael Salla, founder of the Exopolitics movement, and French aviation expert Gilles Lorant allegedly took place in New York from February 12-14. Is there any truth to these assertions or is it most likely bunk? I do know that a UN Meeting on UFOs was held in 1978 where Dr. Jacques Vallee gave a presentation regarding the consequences of science failing to sincerely engage the UFO matter.
Your sincere reaction in these matters would be much appreciated.
Kind regards.
André Skondras
Begin forwarded message:
From: André Skondras <[email protected]>
Date: Mon 3 Mar 2008 12:49:22 GMT+01:00
To: [email protected]
Subject: UN Meeting on UFOs???
Hi:
Please your informed reply re a UN issue of which there is much talk on the internet at the moment. The information can be found at the following two links. I'd appreciate it if you replied in all sincerity!
http://exopolitics.org/Exo-Comment-65.htm
http://www.exopolitics.org/Exo-Comment-67.htm
Kind regards.
André Skondras
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Thanks for the message. Ted/Victor...
Quote:
"As far as we are aware of there was no meeting concerning UFO's at the United Nations."
I would point out that the first 7 words are most important and that if the meeting was SECRET, as we have asserted from the first notice, it would not appear in the The UN's Department of Public Information and Public Relations Section.
"N'est pas, Dumas?"
If I may add...
I think that the only person "sucker punched" here is Ted's English teacher and Ted who seems to be taking it personally. By the way, Ted, if the "sucker punch" swells up and shows a bruise, try putting some Arnica on it. The swelling will come down immediately.
(Just kidding :)
But, seriously, keep it up, the pressure is mounting.
They have to crack soon.
I am pleased to report that one resourceful lady (a Canadian) took my advice and has written to Prime Minister Stephen Harper of Canada on this subject, as I requested yesterday.
Regards,
Robert M*
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: ted roe <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 14:28:20 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: UN Denies meetings took place
Greetings from the UN Public Inquiries Team.
As
far as we are aware of there was no meeting concerning UFO's at the
United Nations. Attached below are the Journals for those days which
lists all the meetings that took place:
Best regards,
Public Inquiries Unit
Public Relations Section
Department of Public Information
United Nations
[email protected]
André Skondras <[email protected]> 08/03/2008 07:34 AM |
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This week I sent you the message below re a UN Meeting on UFOs which according to some people such as Mr. Michael Salla, founder of the Exopolitics movement, and French aviation expert Gilles Lorant allegedly took place in New York from February 12-14. Is there any truth to these assertions or is it most likely bunk? I do know that a UN Meeting on UFOs was held in 1978 where Dr. Jacques Vallee gave a presentation regarding the consequences of science failing to sincerely engage the UFO matter.
Your sincere reaction in these matters would be much appreciated.
Kind regards.
André Skondras
Begin forwarded message:
From: André Skondras <[email protected]>
Date: Mon 3 Mar 2008 12:49:22 GMT+01:00
To: [email protected]
Subject: UN Meeting on UFOs???
Hi:
Please your informed reply re a UN issue of which there is much talk on the internet at the moment. The information can be found at the following two links. I'd appreciate it if you replied in all sincerity!
http://exopolitics.org/Exo
http://www.exopolitics.org/Exo
Kind regards.
André Skondras
I’ve never any pity for conceited people, because I think they carry their comfort about with them
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