I didn’t know how much I didn’t know, because I didn’t know how much there was to know.
The Honorable Paul Hellyer - SSE Conference Boulder Colorado
June 26th,2008
Introduction By Courtney Brown, PhD
The Honorable Paul Hellyer was once the Designated Deputy Prime Minster, and he’s a person whom we’re very pleased to bring to our meeting. He had a skeptical past, a past where he did not initially believe in UFOs, but he had an experience that many scientists don’t have. Because of his abilities contacting people because of his governmental contacts, he was able to get information and talk to people at higher levels, to become convinced that something was there. It was the main reason we asked him to speak to us. So, hoping that he can share with us some of the reasons that he feels more comfortable about this topic, the Honorable
Paul Hellyer. Thank you very much.
PH: Thank you very much. Actually, generous introductions like that remind me of something General Eisenhower said. “It’s like chewing gum, you can taste it for a minute or two, but for Heaven’s sake, don’t swallow it!” Or like the small boy who fell head first into a barrel of molasses, and when they pulled him out, he licked some of the molasses from his face, and said, “Lord, make my tongue adequate to this occasion.”
Actually, I have the advantage that Cortney Brown told me what I should say today and what I shouldn’t say, and that’s a big help, but he also said that towards the end of my speech I could say what I wanted to say. So I’m going to take him up on that invitation when I get towards the back side of it.
I’d like to start with a story that I find kind of interesting and you might, which is about perspective. Sherlock Holmes and Dr. Watson went on a camping trip. After a good meal and a bottle of wine, they lay down for the night and went to sleep. Some hours later, Holmes awoke and nudged his faithful friend. “Watson, look up in the sky and tell me what you see.” Watson replied, “I see millions and millions of stars.” “What does that tell you?” asked Holmes. Watson pondered for a minute and replied, “Astronomically, it tells me that there are millions of galaxies, and potentially billions of planets. Astrologically, I observe that Saturn is in Leo. Horologically, I deduce that the time is approximately a quarter past three. Theologically, I can see that God is all-powerful, and that we are small and insignificant. Meteorologically, I suspect that we will have a clear and sunny day tomorrow. What does it tell you, Holmes?”
Holmes was silent for a minute, then spoke. “Watson, you idiot, somebody has stolen our tent!”
So when you’re talking about these things, you can have quite different perceptions depending on your world view.
Well as a result of the notoriety gained by the dubious distinction of being the first person of Cabinet rank in the G8 group of countries to speak out and say that UFOs are real, no qualifications, they are as real as the airplanes flying over your head, I was able to meet some very interesting people whom I certainly wouldn’t have met otherwise. One was Apollo astronaut Edgar Mitchell. He was coming to Toronto to make a speech, so he let it be known that he would be interested in meeting me. My wife, who is here with me today, was gallant enough to say, let’s invite him for dinner. So we did, and he came with his escort, and we had three marvelous hours discussing his career as an astronaut, his epiphany, and his deep, deep concern now for the future of our planet. I had the pleasure of sharing a platform with him at an X-Conference in Washington DC in April of this year, and the introduction to his talk was quite intriguing. He asked us to take our minds back a hundred years to the time when the Wright Brothers were trying to get an airplane off the ground. Then planes were developed larger and larger. We got the DC-3, which was the queen of the skies and sort of the ultimate in air travel; and then faster and bigger planes, turbo props, jet planes, supersonic planes, and finally putting people on the moon. All in the space of less than one century. So have you ever thought ahead, because this is only the beginning, have you ever thought what it will be like a hundred years from now, or even a thousand years from now? Assuming, of course, that in the meantime we don’t make the planet uninhabitable, which is our current flight path.
Reading Colonel Corso’s book was a real eye-opener for me. I had, of course, received reports of UFO sightings when I was Minister of National Defense, like most people in that position. About 80% of them were natural phenomena, and 15-20% of them were not and just had written beside them, unexplained. But Colonel Corso’s book was an eye-opener, and when it was confirmed by a retired United States Air Force general of my acquaintance as being true in every word, and more, and then spending some time with him discussing both some of the basics and the “and more,” I decided that I had to say something about it.
In government, I was just too busy. I was responsible, as some of you may know, for unifying the Royal Canadian Navy, the Royal Canadian Air Force, and the Royal Canadian Army into a single armed force for Canada. If you don’t think that’s a tough, tense job, I recommend you try to get the job of Secretary of Defense in Washington and try unifying the US Army, Navy and Air Force, and I wish you luck.
But by the time I got out of that job, I was, as Cortney said, not convinced. I neither believed nor disbelieved, I just didn’t know and I was far too busy to worry about it, frankly. But then I read Corso’s book and my General friend confirmed it. He confirmed a lot of things that are not widely known, and I’d like to read some of them.
A UFO did crash at Roswell, New Mexico, on or about July 4, 1947. There were humanoid creatures aboard when it crashed. Corso was not at the crash scene at the time and did not personally see the survivor that was carried into the Army Air Force Infirmary, that he writes about in this book. He did later, however, see one of the cadavers being transported, presumably for autopsy. The Colonel’s personal involvement really began more than a decade later, when he was posted to the Pentagon and his boss, the Lieutenant General Arthur Trudeau, gave him the Foreign Technology Desk and turned over the top-secret Roswell files and the file of wreckage, the cabinet of wreckage that had been collected from the crash site in New Mexico. Trudeau asked him to make a list of those areas where he thought something might be developed which would be of use to the United States Army. So he did.
And the list, as it developed, included the following: image intensifiers, which ultimately became night vision. I had the privilege of attending one of the first demonstrations, although I didn’t know at the time where the technology had come from. Fiber optics, which have revolutionized telecommunications worldwide; supertenacity fibers; lasers; molecular alignment metallic alloys; integrated circuits and microminiaturization of logic boards. When I read this one, I thought to myself, My gosh, I visited (SAC?) headquarters some years ago, and I was taken into the computer room. The computer filled the whole room from end to end. And today, thanks to this new technology, the grace of our visiting friends, you could put more than that capacity in a box that would fit into a picnic basket, or even smaller. Then there was the HARP, the High Altitude Research Project; Project Horizon, which was the moon base; portable atomic generators; ion propulsion drive; irradiated food; third-brain guidance systems, that’s the headbands that the EBE’s wore to give instructions to their ships. They didn’t use conventional controls, it was all done by mental telepathy. Particle beams; Star Wars and missile weapons systems; electromagnetic propulsion systems; and depleted uranium projectiles.
I hasten to point out that in some of these areas, research was already being done. But in many of the others, it was not, because the technology that the visitors left when the crash occurred was light years ahead of ours. It is also worth noting, as some of Corso’s detractors pointed out, that he didn’t know what the Navy and the Air Force were doing at the same time in the same areas. As a former Minister of National Defense I can attest that with separate services, often they don’t tell the other services what’s going on. They treat them more as an enemy than they do as a member of the team.
I am, of course, fascinated by the technical advances that we have made. They are mind-boggling, almost beyond comprehension. But these developments alone would not have been enough to get me to speak out. I went public because I am even more fascinated, and may I say concerned, by the geopolitics and the Exopolitics of the intervening decades. These are two profoundly important issues that are difficult to talk about and impossible to debate when the official position of the United States remains that UFOs do not exist. Just two weeks ago I listened to a United States scientist on a radio in Toronto, describing what sounded like a rather expensive project to try and locate planets elsewhere in the cosmos that would sustain life. She gave the impression that they hadn’t yet found any, but they were going to keep on looking. I was tempted to phone the radio station and say, “Why doesn’t she just go and ask some of the people that have talked to them, and ask them where they came from?” This is the kind of waste that goes on when the left hand doesn’t know what the right hand is doing. But I digress.
I can understand the near panic in the late 1940’s and early 1950’s, when all of a sudden the US Armed Forces found themselves in a most unusual position. They had just contributed magnificently to the winning of the war in Europe. They were top dogs. And all of a sudden, they were confronted with a technology that was greater than their own, and they didn’t know how to cope. Near panic set in. They knew that it was not of this world, and they decided to keep it a closely guarded secret, on the basis that if the public was aware, that there might be another panic not unlike the one that Orson Welles created when he broadcast War of the Worlds as a Halloween hoax.
I’m sure that an equal concern was that another earthly power, and I suppose we might as well be specific and name the Soviet Union, might have the same kind of opportunity to develop the technology and might get ahead of the United States, and this could lead to a position where the United States would cease to be the predominant military power in the world. This fear could have been nurtured by hints from Dr. Werner von Braun that the Germans might have had access to some of this technology as early as the 1930’s. This led the United States to embark on a reverse R & D program unprecendented in earthly history.
The secrecy made sense, in my opinion, until the end of the Cold War. There is no legitimate reason why these clandestine operations should not have been made public when the Soviet Union collapsed. The United States had no other enemies with any military capability to speak of. There were no real threats. A good, fairly large peace dividend could have been declared. But someone in the Intelligence community decided that one or more of the alien species had hostile designs on Earth, and that we had to use the technology that we gained from them to make Earth an unfriendly and unsafe place for visitors from other realms. If you Google the United States Air Force Command, you will find that we are rapidly achieving that goal. With the extension of the anitmissile, the dual-purpose antimissile missile system around the globe, Earth will become increasingly out of bounds to visitors.
We have learned, however, that intelligence gathering is an imprecise science. Interpreting it depends, to a large extent, on the interpreter’s world view. Witness the rationale for the Iraq war. I recall too the wildly inaccurate estimates of the United States Air Force of the rate of Soviet ballistic missile production. This misinformation led to some very dumb decisions in my country.
So the reason I decided to go public was the very real fear that military intelligence inadvertently or deliberately misinterpreted the intention of the aliens. I use the word deliberately in the sense of General Eisenhower’s warning that the alien technology was falling into the wrong hands. They could have attacked us at any time in those early years – there was really nothing to stop them with the possible exception of some high-powered radars – but otherwise there was no means to destroy them and they had complete domination of our skies. But instead of trying to destroy us, they seemed genuinely concerned about our stewardship of our planet, through deforestation, chemical contamination, overpopulation, global warming, and above all, increasing stockpiles of atomic weapons that in the hands of a madman could result in the planet becoming uninhabitable for heaven only knows how long.
It was interesting that Corso subscribed to this enemy alien concept at the time he wrote The Day After Roswell, but later changed his mind. He might have been influenced in part by speaking to one of the visitors face to face. He was aware of a landing that had taken place not far from where he was stationed, and he went over to investigate. He went into an abandoned mine shaft, saw something that looked like shadow but was wearing a helmet, pulled out his revolver and was ready to shoot when by mental telepathy he heard the word, “Don’t.” Then a minute or two later he got another message by mental telepathy: “Will you shut down the radars for ten minutes after the green time?” This would, in effect, give him a chance to escape. Corso said to him, “What do you offer in return?” The answer was, “A new world, if you can take it.”
You people are scientists, and the very first tenet of science is seeking the truth. If it is a commercially viable discovery, every single plane, military and civil, built from tomorrow on should employ the technology – because just think of the fuel that it would save. Now is this a reality? I don’t know. But this is the problem when everything is secret and it is almost impossible to pry it out.
To what extent has research and development been limited to the military aspects of technology? Have there been breakthroughs in other areas, especially energy, as is widely believed? Are we barking up the wrong tree when we make plans for a thirty-year supply of oil, a policy destined to change the planet irrevocably? These are the gargantuan issues that should be on the front burner of debate as a precursor to action plans for survival. We not only have to establish the true intentions of the aliens, and not through the filter of military intelligence; and if they are honorable, we should collaborate with them in the areas of medicine, agriculture, and energy, to name three. Some of them at least have indicated their willingness to do so.
Colonel Corso’s book mentioned Wilbert Smith, a Canadian who worked in the Federal Department of Transport, which is the one I became Minister of after I left Defence. Smith was one of the early believers and wrote a top-secret memo to his boss based on information he had gained from Dr. Robert Sarbacher, who was intimately familiar with what was going on in the United States. Smith not only obtained permission for Projet Magnet, which was shared with the United States later, but he also developed a network of contacts with the visitors from other places and came to the conclusion that they were well-intentioned. They answered his questions and gave him practical solutions, some of which he developed. They even explained why some of our aircraft crashed when they got too close to the spacecraft. The bottom line is that I have never seen a case where the aliens shot first. We warmongering and trigger-happy earthlings have always started the shooting. Shoot first and ask questions afterward.
Sure, the visitors harrassed our astronauts and ran surveillance checks on military installations, especially the ones with nuclear capability or storage. But this was all in the course of trying to tell us something. The message, which is as clear as the noses on our faces, if we would just look into the mirror and see it, is that we can’t save our planet by military means. We must have a massive shift in the allocation of resources, away from the canopy of fear and into a new and innovative canopy of hope. We have to use the technology that the visitors have given us, and more that they are willing to share, to replace fossil fuels now, in this decade. Not thirty years from now, when it may indeed be too late. But this requires cooperation, not confrontation, both on earth and in the cosmos. Any new wars in the future should be wars against poverty, hunger, illiteracy, ill-health, and global warming. These are the wars that should engage the best scientific, entrepreneurial, and political minds available, freed from the limits of an earthly world view. We have to begin by insisting that we be told the truth, because to paraphrase the Bible, only the truth will set us free. No longer is it sufficient to make the world our oyster. The Star Visitors have removed the canopy that restricted our view and understanding of the cosmos, and we don’t want a handful of short-sighted Mr. Magoos to draw it back. The scientists of the cosmos, our cousins, are willing to share with you, the best of ours, the biggest oyster of them all: the infinite cosmos, and thank God for that. And thank you for listening so intently.
Colonel John Alexander; Obviously there is very little that we would agree on. I’m one who investigated Corso and went through line by line. Now if you agree with Corso that every word is true, one of the things in there was that the Cold War was a cover for fighting ET.
Paul Hellyer; Well, I’m not going to take every little nitpick literally, but the purpose of the book was confirmed not only by my friend, a retired Air Force general, but by the other senior, most legitimate source that I know, and he too said that Corso’s book, The Day after Roswell was authentic.
Colonel John Alexander : That’s why I named names and I’d like to have you name names. I’d also like, you made a whole series of assertions that came out of conspiracy theory – who, by name, is in contact with ETs, is having this dialogue where you can get the technology?
Paul Hellyer: Well, Colonel, you know that I’m not going to name names any more than you are, because I would be doing them a great disservice. You did say a couple of things that I agreed with. You said that the UFOs are not important to most of the people, and you’re right. This, I think, is the greatest challenge that we have, because when you talk about this, people roll their eyes or raise their eyebrows and want to get back to doing their job and this sort of thing. But what they have to come to terms with, because a lot of those same people who are not the least bit interested in UFOs, are extremely green-oriented and want to save the planet for future generations, for their grandchildren and their great-grandchildren. They’re going to extraordinary lengths, some of them, to do something about it. They’re going to have to, somehow, try to find out about what has been accomplished. I have been told, and I can’t authenticate this, that the Black Ops as they’re called, have mastered the arts of zero point energy and of cold fusion. You shake your head.
Colonel John Alexander: Where is it?
Paul Hellyer: Well, it’s hidden deeply, and maybe you can tell us where. Only when we get the truth can we find out, and find out if it is possibly true that there are some of these rich people that you were talking about who would rather save their trillions from the oil business than to open up technologies that would cost them a fortune. I don’t know whether that’s true or not, but I know some of the people involved enough to have very serious doubts about it.
Paola Harris: Mr. Hellyer, this is based on Colonel Corso’s book, and we must remember that it was ghost written by Bill Birnes. What was told to me was that Colonel Corso did not read the final manuscript before it came out in 1997 because of the rush to get it out in time for the fiftieth anniversary of the Roswell crash. I was also told that a little bit if disinformation gets mixed in with the information, and that is how we can pick on a few things like this. Are there other instances other than Corso’s book which make you believe this? You did go to the Crash Retrieval Conference. Did you speak to other people?
Paul Hellyer: Since I went public, I have received filing cabinets filled with documents, dozens of books, I have talked with hundreds of people, and I have talked to some people whose testimony I believe implicitly. I speak with that background. It is not from reading the National Enquirer, which I don’t read, and it’s not from reading the National Post in Toronto. It is the best consensus distillation from available information that I have been able to discern. It has taken a lot of work and a lot of time on my part. I agree with something that has been said here today, though, that it is so big. And the final sentence I would like to say about, it because it applies to us all, is this: I didn’t know how much I didn’t know, because I didn’t know how much there was to know.
Courtesy of Paula Harris.
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